Published : 29th August 2010 @ 15:53 by Angus+Og
I just wondered if anyone else has come up against a similar situation to the one myself and 4 other potential growers have just experienced and if so could advise us on how to procede.
We had a Landowner (Landshare owner of the month for August) who was prepared to give away portions of a 4 acre field, free, on a hundred year lease, to anyone prepared to turn it into allotments or gardeners for a share of our produce. You can imagine how delighted we were to take up this offer and we had all started to plan how we would use the land. I had even gone as far as digging fence post holes on mine.
Then the bubble burst.
A local farmer who's driveway runs up the side of the field has objected to it's use as allotments and now our Landowner has to apply for planning permission which may take up to 9 months to a year to come through, if it does come through. We can't see what the objection could be and are obviously gutted.
We have been instructed by our Landowner not to do anything until this situation has been resolved.
Any advice would be helpfull, thanks
Published : 31st August 2010 @ 13:56 by cazandsteve
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Published : 1st September 2010 @ 14:09 by Cactus+man

Yes planning permission is required, the advice not to do anything untill such permission has been granted is sound. Planning permission may not be granted. I would however have thought thatv 9 months for matter to be resolved is a little over the top, three to four months sounds more reasonable following the submission of the planning application. You may be surprised at the level of objection as I know from experience. The very best of luck.

Published : 4th September 2010 @ 21:18 by rockchick
Hi,
As far as I am aware, planning would only be required if it is a change of use.  What is the current status of the land ie is it agricultural, utility, pasture etc.  Also is the drive owned by the local farmer the access to the land, if it is then that would be his objection and in that case you may have a problem.
Published : 5th September 2010 @ 11:38 by Angus+Og

The 4 acre field was originaly farm land but has not been cultivated or grazed for about 10 years. The farm access road (a public road) runs along 1 side and the main road along another. Parking would appear to be the major problem although we feel that this can be easily addressed.

Published : 6th September 2010 @ 18:07 by mgs37

Sounds well frustrating, especially since you'd managed to get your spade in the ground.

It may be worth talking to the local planning dept to see what the due process might be in this instance. I don't know about Planning Law in much detail, but a change of use may be required from agricultural to recreational use, and that bit may take time. Planning departments tend to work at their own speed. Notwithstanding, if the situation ends up in a Planning Committee hearing (and you'll have to gently enquire of the Landowner whether he could keep you informed) it might be possible that the intended users of the site could address the Committee and reassure that provision of an amenity such as allotments is beneficial socially, economically and ecologically.

Don't forget to use the S-word either!

Published : 6th September 2010 @ 21:30 by rockchick

If the existing status of the land is agricultural then you would not require planning permission for alloments, a quick call to the local council would confirm this.  You would have to get planning for any buildings that you put up, but the council could not refuse you permission provided the buildings are for agricultural purposes ie pig house, chicken house tractor shed - not stables as they come under equestrian use.  Best advice:- sort out the parking issue and crack on.

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